I'd like to state two things before I take a good chunk of time to assert my case about 9/11 being setup by the government. This post is only to show you guys that you are followers. That you are "sheep", in the sense of "following what has been told to you, not what you learn to be true". I'll address 9/11 later.
1. The video that farquezy linked in the first page is a radical ideology, supported by few, and explained in-depth by even fewer. It is essentially no more factual than any work of fiction, as it is itself, exactly just that. Que had it right when he said
que13x wrote:Stop taking fiction for fact FarQ.
I don't think anything else needs to be said there. But this is about 9/11 being a conspiracy or not, or at least, that's what this thread has developed into, so the video in this thread is non-important propaganda that I will not address again.
2. I enjoy these forums. This is not an attack on 1 member. However, what this member said shows that people do not fully understand what they are talking about when pertaining to this issue - that they are spoon-fed garbage and exhale it as well.
AdventWolf wrote:Pearl Harbor didn't really hurt us since our fighter jets or something and stuff were off training, so thats something.
That is the kind of statement that I see in this thread by multiple people. It's a message of not understanding the situation at hand, but INSTEAD, telling other people "something randomly off-hand that they don't really know for sure", and that's happened too much in this thread. People don't understand the facts behind what they say, and I'll prove it.
1. The US invoked a trade embargo on Japan before the US entered World War 2. Why did the US do this? I'll explain. Japan was trying to capture strategic land that belonged to China in order to stop the influx and importation of war goods. Japan wanted all of China's resources halted, essentially placing an embargo on CHINA, not Japan. However, the United States decided to place a trade embargo on Japan to anger the Japanese into attacking the United States. This didn't work, so the United States took other measures, even going as far as freezing Japanese bank accounts and funds held within United States market-space.
Japan's reaction was to attack Pearl Harbor. Now, this isn't simple either.
2. The United States had already deciphered the majority of the code that Japan used to send covert military messages. Not only that, the United States was intercepting those messages daily, deciphering them, and knew about Japan wanting to launch an attack. The United States did nothing about it. Instead, the US Navy (and even Army) sent very ominous and foreshadowing "war with Japan" warnings to all Pacific commands in its reach. Still, however, Pearl Harbor, the United States' closest Naval base at the time, was not told that Japan would attack, that they planned to attack, and did not even alert any personnel at all (at the infantry level) about impending attacks on Pearl Harbor, when in reality, Pearl Harbor was the most logical target based on common sense, as it was the closest to Japan in the first place.
The United States knew that Japan was attacking. There's more evidence to prove that the United States government WANTED Japan to attack the United States, as it seems easy to understand that it appears that the United States "picked on the little guy" by helping China and the U.S.S.R (Russia now) by taking their side, yet still pissing off Japan on the side, as Japan was a war ally with Germany. Taking sides with the "big guys" offered the United States a way to target Japan as a way to enter World War 2 by provoking them to attack, not telling on-site personnel the intelligence that the government KNEW about, and eventually offered a gateway to enter the war. Before Pearl Harbor, most everyone in the United States was against going into war. After Pearl Harbor, the majority had shifted to being war-minded, and the United States entered the war.
Now. I want you to read this again.
AdventWolf wrote:Pearl Harbor didn't really hurt us since our fighter jets or something and stuff were off training, so thats something.
"since our fighter jets or something and stuff were off training, so thats something." --- I'd like to address this.
1. Some fighter planes were off on training. True. Most were not. Most were grounded. None, absolutely none, were on-call and ready to fight against the Japanese attack that the government knew about.
2. 188 US planes were lost in the attacks.
3. Adventwolf states that Pearl Harbor didn't do a ton of damage to the United States, as a whole, so the attacks on Pearl Harbor were pretty insignificant. Which I agree with. I think that's absolutely true. However, like I mentioned my post just before this, on page 4, you people fail to question WHY?!?!
Why did Pearl Harbor happen?
Why didn't the US warn the people?
Why weren't fighters mobilized?
Why were fighters away training?
Why were they grounded?
Why, and under what circumstances, can a country like Japan make a perfectly devastating "sneak" attack on the most powerful country in the world without ANY prior knowledge and do so while under the best conditions available?
Why does this appear to be more than just mere coincidence? - that, is the question. By asking "why", you'll find your solutions.
Now ask "why" to 9/11. You'll see points coincide with Pearl Harbor, however, you won't UNDERSTAND what you're saying unless you ignore what you are told is the truth, and instead, seek out the real truth, which is something that I've researched and found to be particularly hard for religious people and institutions to do. You need to learn to adapt to the truth, as a whole - everyone does, but I'll post again, and when I do, I want you sheep to listen. I want you sheep to ask questions. I want you sheep to think critically and draw your own substantiated conclusions. Only then will you shed your own wool and not become another statistic rifled with fear and ignorance, but instead, you won't be a victim of deception any longer, that is, unless you are too afraid to step out of your wool, stop being sheep, and want to learn about the truth as a whole. It is that single reason alone,
fear, that makes sheep follow the leader and get chased away by dogs - chased away by those who you're told are your superiors, including religious entities.
-DarkPacMan77-